PERMACULTURE AND COMMUNITY FOR SUSTAINABLE LIVING
FAQs about visiting, membership,
investing and ownership
How do I apply to visit for a stay at MMV, from a half day peek to lifetime/long-term membership?
Easy. Complete an application, which is under the heading "Visiting MMV" and send to us. There is a 2 week minimum for WOOFing experiences, internships are generally 6 months long (we also accept 2 and four month periods) and can start any time of the year, but most of them begin in Spring and End in Autumn. These are not strict edicts, but general guidelines.
We do not regularly interrupt our schedules for short take-a-peek-at-what-you-have-going-on visits. Frankly, it's not worth it to provide orientation time and energy to the casually curious as there are so many requests. But you can visit and show yourself around and maybe we have time for a brief conversation here or there.
What is a typical day like there at our farm/community?
There aren’t many typical days. Beyond focused build projects, you will learn that our work is determined almost exclusively by the weather and season. A farm doles out its own schedule for us to follow. We generally work considerably less in the rainy winter and often midday. In the summer work is quite early, 6AM to noon, for beating the heat. We take afternoons off. Day to day activities involve feeding animals, walking and milking the goats, general tidiness, turning cabins over for guests, summer watering, etc. There is some weekly or monthly maintenance involved.
Weekly, usually on Tuesdays, we meet as a community for Heart Club, which is a logistical meeting of minds to organize and coordinate work, followed by a group exercise (determined by a different member each week) and then a Heart Share (time to speak your truth, communicate, be vulnerably human with the group).
Spring through Fall especially, we are regular about setting aside group meditation, usually after breakfast. Not mandatory or anything, just an opportunity to sit and quiet the mind, and to listen. Also encouraged is making the time to maintain the physical body through stretching, yoga, or other regimens; to honor ourselves, and to cultivate potent, strong, balanced and healthy bodies.
How many people live/work there?
In the past, we average about three in the winter months and 6 to 10 in the summer months, and it can vary greatly. About 300 applications arrive yearly, we approve about 70, and 40 to 50 show up interspersed throughout the year. But 2017 is more focused on internships and long-term membership, investors and owners -- transitioning away from our short term visitors and cabin rental economy.
How much money do I need to bring if I want to WOOF long term / intern / or move here?
It generally doesn't cost anything to live here for most members and there is no fee for visiting or interning. Bring enough money for your personal needs like personal travel, special foods, necessary medicines, general health care, clothing, entertainment and such. There are three tiers of membership that determine living expense: work trade (no money needed), investor members (40K for a lifetime lease on cabin/space) and owner membership for those interested in equal shares in property. None of our member options require any monthly or yearly dues or fees. We share many of our resources (like harvests) and there is a possibility of revenue share from our businesses.
I would like to bring a cat and/or a dog, or hope to get one while living at MMV. Is this OK?
Yes, pets are a necessary part of our permaculture system, as well as our companions. If someone is going to inhabit a cabin (especially long-term), keep in mind the integral multi-purposes for animals in our system: cats reduce/control mouse populations, and dogs to effectively keep predators away from our orchard trees, gardens, and farm animals. If it is a dog breed that is suitable for this job, we prefer they perform function by being an outside dog. If it's a Chihuahua or Shih Tzu, that's another case. Of course, introducing a new animal element to our living system is always something to monitor carefully. Harmony among dogs and cats amidst chickens, goats, etc can be elusive. On many occasions, sadly, visiting pets have injured or killed our farm animal members. And on occasion the dogs have gotten into spats with visiting pooches.
I take prescription medications. Where is the closest pharmacy?
Crescent City, CA or Cave Junction, OR
Is there a broadband internet connection and/or wifi available?
No, but if it is Necessary for your existence here (e.g. for financial reasons)
we/you can pay the subscription on our satellite dish Internet service
(which we do not currently). We do not have a router for wi-fi
How does receiving mail work?
You can rent your own PO box in Gasquet or Crescent City
or sometimes people use ours, in Gasquet
(PO Box 246 Gasquet 95543)
How far is the nearest hospital?
About 50 minutes drive to Crescent City
I don’t have my own transportation – how do I get there?
You can take the bus or an airplane (to Gasquet, Crescent City, or if you must, to Medford, OR) hitch, walk, run, bike or carpool. I often suggest ride shares through Craigslist, or like site.
I send specific directions once a commitment is made.
Will I need to get a job, or are there opportunities to earn a salary or allowance in the community? If so, how much might I earn, and what should I expect?
Some have secured a job in town, part or full time (The Patrick's Creek Lodge is the closest business to our location). But we have also developed an economy here through cabin rentals and farmers market sales. Eventually (hopefully this year) we will develop a position for two caretakers who will manage the farm and cabin rentals and receive a revenue share in exchange, as well as room and board (accommodations and food). We have not cemented the specific details as of yet, and will probably co-create the position with the caretakers in situ, on an individualized basis. They probably won't become filthy rich financially, but will have all their monetary needs comfortably met.
How much does living here cost per month?
Nothing for woofers, investors and owners members
Long term work trade members exchange as follows
Community work Comm. Monthly Rent
10 hours / wk 500 ind. / 700 cple
20 hours / wk 250 ind. / 325 cple
30 hours / wk 0
What kind of living accommodations options are there?
Many of our woofer and interns occupy available cabins (when they are not rented), the Lodge collectively/together (when it is not rented), the greenhouse (has a bed, this is a *favorite), and also we provide large (6 man) tenting (each, not shared) with mattresses Spring through Fall when most of our woofer and interns are here and in larger numbers.
What does the community have to offer? Example: amenities, activities, etc.
A simple life, filled with meaningful, soulful work for the relatively contented, extreme boredom leading to insanity for the restless. All the necessities of life, healthy food, clean water, fresh air, housing are here. Community is, of course, what you make of it. Likely, we won't make you happy if you're not a happy, contented person. But joyfulness and contented life is everywhere here to be discovered. We host several social/educational events throughout the year and many many good people come to visit with us for a permaculture and sustainable-life experience. There are numerous festivals throughout the year, activities, hiking, and natural beauty to enjoy in every direction.
Are LGBTQ, families, children, and / or extraterrestrials, welcome?
Sure; unless you’re some kind of malevolent ET, or possessed by demons or something. That doesn’t sound like much fun. Otherwise, all good, potent and pleasant human beings, I think, can find a place here. I personally don’t like categorizing people at all. So you won’t get any kind of special treatment for being different (like a Canadian, for example) and you’ll have to settle for being treated like a regular human being.
Can you accommodate vegans/vegetarians?
Yes, but know that the dietary cache of eaters varies greatly, from some to many omnivores, and we share a community kitchen, and you may have to smell another eater's animal products, wash oils out that are left (customary/usual for cast iron pans) on cookware, and intermingle animal food storage. Stuff like that. Don’t get all bent out of shape about it.
Can I thrive in this environment with my physical disability or injury?
Probably not. This wilderness, mountainous terrain is rugged, steep, and, off our beaten path, gnarly. If you have a really bad back, knees, feet, etc. maybe a flatlanders life is the one for you.
If I decide I want to move here, how do I become a member?
You apply at our web site, get approved for a visit and indicate your intentions and why, then visit for a couple weeks. Most times, we all know if it is a good fit without a formal conversation about it.
If I become a member or volunteer, what should I expect the community to be like? Ex: quiet, calm, loud, exciting, caring, accepting, etc.
On the quiet side. I’m (Dan) very old and curmudgeonly, and, as such, need some solitude and silence regularly. I’ll make that time myself so don't be offended if I don’t stay up til midnight pontificating with the youth. I always had in mind that independently contented people would intermingle and share parts of their life here. Maybe some will be glued to each other, and some, like me, not so much. Caring and accepting is a matter of course and probably also an individualized matter. We're all human beings here and definitely not any kind virtual, magical manifestation of idealism, utopia, or fantasy. I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but I certainly am very interested in community trust, commitment, and respect, with all of its power and pitfalls, and try to treat everyone with kindness and compassion, with conscious awareness and gentle patience. Sometimes I fail. I have failed many, many times in my life and, as an unenlightened life-long fool, will certainly fail again. Others probably will, too. That's the experiment of life, isn't it?
If you have other or more specific questions, please write to us and ask. : )